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A Tattoo By Any Other Name

Recently, time constraints had me going straight from work out to dinner with my husband and some friends. My fourteen-hour work day had me apologizing for how I looked. I joked that at least my fifty-year old eyes couldn’t see the smudged eyeliner and flakes of mascara that I knew were scattered around my pea-green eyes like little dead soldiers. I also lamented over losing, yet another, tube of my favorite lipstick in the galley of my plane at work.

Our dinner companion, Sarah (not her name), told me I should have my makeup tattooed on, like she did, then I wouldn’t have to worry about it. I looked up at her, sitting across the table from me, with her perfectly arched eyebrows of just the right intensity, her eyelashes tinted just the right complementing color, and her perfectly drawn mascara. Even her lips were perfect!

I stared at her dumbfounded. “You’re not wearing any makeup? ” I asked, incredulously.

“She wakes up looking like that,” her husband replied.

The week after that, I gave a lot of thought to permanent cosmetics. I recalled that my 77 year old mother-in-law — a dyed in the wool, true-blue, Mormon, descendant of Brigham Young, stickler for the letter of the law — got her eyebrows tattooed-on about 5 years ago. She came from a generation that plucked their eyebrows, then drew them on. Only now she can’t see well enough to draw them on straight. I thought how my own mother hasn’t worn make-up for a decade and how I have assumed that she was just getting lazy about her appearance. Why I would think this since her house is still immaculate and she showers and wears clean, pressed, attractive clothes, I don’t know.

Still- tattooing my lips? my eyelids? my eyebrows? It all sounded so radical. And I’ve just barely finished raising four children and expounding the evils of tattoos.

But…what are my alternatives? Invite someone over to put my makeup on straight every morning? That doesn’t sound reasonable, especially mornings I get up for work in another city.

As I began to investigate this, the cost set me back a bit till I thought how much I spend on makeup in a year. The cost in my area for tattooed eyeliner is about $199. I buy a good eyeliner for about $20, which I then lose in a hotel room or on a plane, at least once every other month. 20 x 6= $120. That’s just the eyeliner. The permanent make-up procedure is good for about 3 years, maybe more. So, It could actually SAVE me money. And the time saved? Plus, no smudge, even when I cry. I could do a whole lot more worry free crying!

I shared my thoughts with a fellow LDS woman and got back from her that I was rationalizing something I’d been told not to do. What do you think?

Sign me, Even if I were blind, I’d still want to look good.

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  • Angie March 16, 2011, 10:22 am

    Wow Darcee, you have been busy! 8)

    My first instinct is to say that a tattoo is a tattoo, and we’ve been asked not to get them, so I wouldn’t. Take my opinion for what it’s worth though, as I’m admittedly prudish about permanently (or I guess if it lasts 3 years, semi-permanently) changing the things God gave me. For the same reason, I’m not real hip on boob jobs and other cosmetic procedures except in cases of illness (i.e. breast reconstruction after mastectomy) or accident (i.e. skin grafts for burn victims).

  • Alison Moore Smith March 16, 2011, 9:40 am

    We had an interesting discussion about this in 2003: Follow the Prophet on Body Art Issue. I haven’t reread it, but it might be an interesting read if you’re thinking about this topic.
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  • Michelle D March 16, 2011, 10:51 am

    I work in a nursing home. If you wait enough years and get to the point where you need to live in a facility, you will always have someone who can help you apply your make-up!

  • Michelle D March 16, 2011, 11:11 am

    I should have added a 🙂

    I understand the point of your post is that you do not want to wait that long for possible assistance and that you want to offer an appearance that is pleasing to you and others.

  • jks March 16, 2011, 12:22 pm

    Makeup is fashion. Fashion changes. Tattoos don’t let you change.
    How many of us would wear the exact same makeup we wore years ago? The exact same hairstyle? The exact same clothes?

    However, if it isn’t actually permanent……you said it is good for 3 years? Then it isn’t a real tattoo in my opinion. It is like dying your hair.

    I put my foot down with my daughter plucking her eyebrows because I don’t want her to “ruin” her body just for fashion’s sake. She was going crazy with thin eyebrows and couldn’t stop. I now pluck them for her so they are neat but not thin.

    I would say hang out with people with less money. No one I know has tattooed makeup. And perhaps we wear less makeup here? But perhaps you are very concerned about a professional appearance at work. I guess that is part of the work environment you are in.

    Finally, I have to say that a woman should not apologize for her appearance. How can we as women shift our culture against being judged for our appearance if we make the problem worse by announcing “I don’t look good enough. Please judge me on my appearance and find me lacking.” It is possible that people can just interact with you, rather than critiquing your makeup and hair.

  • Angie March 16, 2011, 12:45 pm

    Good comments jks.

    I don’t really know anything about this permanent makeup as I’ve never known anyone who has done it either (jks, I am one of those who DOES wear the same makeup that I did 5 years ago!) I would think that if it’s a real tattoo it is going to permanently alter your body in some way. Is the three year thing more of a touch up? I can’t imagine it would ever fully go away?

    I’m also wondering as you age if the makeup tattoos will sag like regular tattoos do. Tattoos on saggy skin are not a pretty thing. Then again, tattoos on any skin aren’t that pretty either.

    BTW, not really on this topic exactly, but sort of related: my daughter used to see a dermatologist for a skin disease. We had a nice discussion about tats one day – he told me that his business is about 60% people coming in for tattoo removal (he apparently did a good job with it!)

  • Jil March 16, 2011, 3:13 pm

    Interesting how styles come and go. Just yesterday I was reading in a national magazine how the “no make-up” look is now coming in. The fresh face look is now the in thing. I’m close to 50 and wouldn’t dare go out without putting on my face every morning, but with this new look, I can use half as much and still be in style. Fads come and go and I think I’d let this one go.
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  • Janiel Miller March 16, 2011, 4:44 pm

    I’ve wondered about this over the years. Wondered if I’d go through the process. Seems barbaric to have my lips tattooed. But I have friends who do it. And I only found out by hearing one of them saying it was fading and they needed it redone. I had no idea–it looked natural.

    I’m one of those people with thin and very light brows and lashes. I look wildly different without makeup on. A lot like Paul Bettany, in fact. Sometimes the idea of waking up with all of that color already on there is very appealing.

    However, I’m not sure I could go through with it. I have this vision of being in my 70’s and having my tattooed eyebrows hanging down somewhere around my belly button. Yum.

    I tend to think the tattooed make-up is not quite the same as a regular tattoo. The makeup doesn’t mean the same thing, or make the same statement, which I think is part of the Church’s issue (along with health).

    My biggest question is this: I have a friend whose daughter-in-law got tattoos when she was younger and sowing her oats. Then she married in the temple and had a baby. When the baby was born she needed a blood transfusion and her mom was her best match. But her mom couldn’t give blood because of her tattoos. They won’t let you give blood if you’ve ever been tattooed. So, would permanent makeup do the same thing? I’d hate to be in that position. It was very difficult for this young mom. (They did get another match and the baby is fine. But the mom hated that her tattoos prevented her helping her own child.)

    In the meantime, I’ll probably just live with my baldy-brows, and try not to think about my daughter, whose brows and lashes are thick and dark, and who never wears makeup.

    I yam what I yam.
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  • Angie March 16, 2011, 6:06 pm

    Huh. I had never thought of that Janiel. I googled it, and found this statement:
    (Do not donate if):
    You’ve had a tattoo, semi-permanent make up or any cosmetic treatments that involves skin piercing in the last 6 months. -from the UKbloodcenter

    On another site it said that you can give if the tattooing is more than 12 months old and was done in a certified facility that does not re-use needles or ink. It didn’t make a distinction between regular tats and tattooed makeup.


  • Brandi Leigh March 16, 2011, 6:23 pm

    Wise man (Ryan Reynolds) once said, “Tattoos are the Walmart of Rebellion.”

    So… Is it a tattoo or permanent makeup? Oh… it fads but not away. My BFF had hers tatted on at 24. I asked her once why she chose blue eyeliner. She got mad. She chose black, it had faded to blue. She gets it touched up. Her lips look great though!

    Go for it, Mom!

  • Janiel Miller March 16, 2011, 8:56 pm

    So, the real question here is: DOES IT HURT? ‘cuz I don’t do no hurty stuff I don’t have to do.
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  • jennycherie March 16, 2011, 9:22 pm

    I’m curious – what do you suppose is the reasoning for the “no tattoo” pronouncement? Is it that we are too avoid extremes in appearance? In that case, I would think tattooed makeup would be no big deal. Is it to avoid permanently altering our bodies? In that case, probably not such a great idea. At the same time, reconstructive surgery permanently alters our bodies, but that is completely acceptable. . . hmmm. ..

    You know what this reminds me of? If any of you have read the “Princess Diaries” books (which are WAY different than the movies), the grandmother in the books has tattooed makeup – but hers, rather than looking nice is wayyyy scary! heehee 😉 Darcee – I am glad your friend’s makeup was so well done!
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  • Darcee Yates March 16, 2011, 10:54 pm

    Alison,Thanks! I did visit your earlier post- The initial aritcle was actually on tattooing and not on permanent makeup although permanent makeup was brought up, along with breast augmentation. It was entertaining reading.

    I have to commiserate with you on losing your earring. I only have one set of holes myself, never wanted more. But, should the Prophet ever lay down the law about how many silver charm bracelets a women can wear at one time, I’m in deep doodoo. There will be weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth coming from my house.

    Angie- ever painted your nails? put on lipstick? had your hair cut? It seems to me women through out the ages have had trouble with this one. Deciding where making yourself presentable to yourself and others ends, and where vanity begins. How much is it o.k. to change? There is a community of women near my town in southern Utah who wear no makeup and who won’t cut their hair, preferring to wear it in one long braid, sending the message that anything else is vanity.

    You said you are in favor of breast augmentation only in the case of illness(I assume you mean reconstructive surgery after cancer .) Is that because the the removal of the cancer can leave a women disfigured looking and we could probably agree that how a women looks to herself affects how she feels about herself? What if giving birth and then nursing leaves a woman with two flat, deflated- empty balloon looking things that hang down and play pinnoucle with her belly button? Is that disfigured enough for it to be right for her to consider surgery?

    Jks- I never wore makeup (as in foundation, liquid, powder or otherwise) till I was in my mid-30’s. I simply considered myself fortunate. Not everyone has the complexion of a 20 year old, even when they are 20. But eventually it became necessary for me, first in the winter, then most of the time, to even the skin tones. My makeup for my eyes has stayed the same for 30 years. I don’t do eyeshadow, but always, mascara and eyeliner when I’m not being lazy. Always lipliner and a colored gloss. I’ve looked around at the women I want to resemble, in looks, when I’m 60, 70, 80 and they all still wear eyeliner and mascara and lip-coler. So, it’s a pretty safe bet that my makeup needs are going to remain the same.

    I’m of the same mindset as Janiel:
    “I tend to think the tattooed make-up is not quite the same as a regular tattoo. The makeup doesn’t mean the same thing, or make the same statement,”

    As I read the lds.org and what was said about tattoos, it specifically spoke of tattoos as being “pictures and words”, something that marked the individual as different and made them stand out in a rebellious way. With type of tattoo,(picture or word) YM or YW who apply to be missionaries, if they were accepted, would only be sent to areas where their tattoo could be covered with long sleeved clothing, if longsleeved clothing were in fact needed to hide the tattoo.

    Tattooed makeup-on the other hand, has no need of being ‘covered’ as it looks like the semi-permanent makeup that women wear all the time, only they don’t have to apply it every morning.
    If the Prophet were speaking of permanent makeup. I think he would have said so.

    Does it HURT? From what I’ve read, there is a little stinging involved. But not bad. I suppose it depends on what your threshold for pain is.

    How does it look? The right artist- It looks REALLY good. -LOL! But then this old girl don’t see too good, remember! My husband reminds me of that every time I tell him he is handsome.

    My near-vision has progressed from needing reading glasses of a 1.25 power to a 3.5 in ten years. Who knows how bad they will get. I won’t go make-up-less, I’m pretty sure of that. One day at a time. Getting old ain’t for sissies.

    I’m still in the thinking phase.

  • jks March 17, 2011, 1:13 am

    I looked at myself in the mirror as I got ready to go out this evening. It suddenly felt barbaric to permanantly tattoo my face. The feminist and the Mormon in me just felt like it is wrong for our society to cause women to do this sort of thing. Remember National Geographic back in the day and seeing the women with all the rings around their necks to elongate them, or remember when you heard about the Chinese women with their feet binding and thinking how could a culture disfigure a woman and think it is attractive?
    I guess as disfiguring goes its not so bad. But it is very concerning. I supposed if someone’s eyebrows are gone it makes more sense to draw it on once rather than everyday.
    When I was a teenager, I wouldn’t dream of going anywhere without having showered, washed my hair, and put on makeup. Impossible. I love that I am not limited in that way anymore. I usually wear makeup, but I don’t need it.
    I was at bookclub tonight. As far as I could tell only two out of six of us had eyeliner on. Perhaps it is one of the perks of living in Seattle? We don’t have the fake look like Utah or California? I find it quite jarring when I see women with their faces very “done.”
    I’m sounding kind of granola, but I’m not at all. I dye my hair red and I was one of the ones with eyeliner….but no foundation or blush or eyeshadow. Just lipstick, eyeliner and mascara.
    I don’t think I’d do it. I care about the message it sends. I want to be a good example to my daughters. I may have hated my body when I was a teenager, but over the years I changed. I can look at my naked body–whatever weight and shape it has been and appreciate it. I took a good look at my naked face this evening and was glad it was me.

  • wonderdog March 17, 2011, 4:32 am

    God already gave you the greatest thing to make you beautiful, green eyes. Even without make up, you would be beautiful.

  • Darcee Yates March 17, 2011, 6:21 am

    JKS- We are not so different here in Utah- If I were at your bookclub meeting last night there would have been three women wearing eyeliner- or maybe not, depending on how comfortable I felt with the group. Make-up can sometimes be a defense mechanism for women-(but maybe that is another post).

    “I dye my hair red and I was one of the ones with eyeliner….but no foundation or blush or eyeshadow. Just lipstick, eyeliner and mascara.”

    These that you listed would be considered ‘fake’ to some people, but it is the amount of ‘fake’ that you obviously feel comfortable with. That’s about my level as well. My hair started going gray in my late twenties. Yeah, no kidding. About 5 years ago, I got tired of dying my, now completely white, top layer of hair and quit for a year. I Let it all come in natural like some of the Idahoan, Washingtonian naturals that I had seen on my plane. My husband was good with it, I was O.K. with it and then a man on my plane asked me if I was Barbara Walter’s twin! I was born in 1959– Barbara was born in 1929!! I died my hair brown again the next day and lost 30 years. I’ll be old when I’m old. I’m not sure when that will be exactly but it’s not going to be today.

  • Angie March 17, 2011, 7:09 am

    Darcee, to answer your questions:

    Yes I color my hair (My natural color…I have you beat on the age of the gray…started going gray on my mission) and I even cut it sometimes. 🙂

    I wear minimal makeup (powder to cut my glare, mascara, and lip stick/gloss occasionally). For a really special occasion I might even wear some eyeliner or eyeshadow. I’m not a heavy makeup wearer and I personally don’t care for the look of heavy makeup on anyone – that’s a personal, non-permanent choice though.

    I did spend many years painting my nails (also non-permanent) but I don’t any more. I keep them trimmed and cleaned and that’s about it.

    On the rare occasion I have also been known to put on a girdle.

    So, let’s talk more about the permanent things. I’ll state up front that I am against ANY elective surgery for myself. Others can do what they want but since I almost didn’t wake up once, almost bled out once, and got a life threatening infection once (this was during 3 of the 5 surgeries I’ve had) I think any surgery I don’t absolutely have to have is just not going to happen. So even if I had a mastectomy, I’d probably not go through additional surgery for reconstruction. My breasts are just not that big (pun intended) of a deal to me. For some women, they are a bigger part of their identity and that’s fine, I don’t fault them for wanting to feel good about themselves that way. I work for a lady who has had a double mastectomy and she just wears prosthetic breasts when she needs them to help clothes fit right – that’s the route I would go, honestly.

    So, would I judge someone for doing more permanent things to help themselves look/feel better or to ease their daily routine? If I’m being honest, I might. But not from a spiritual standpoint, solely from a vanity standpoint. I’m just not that vain a person (although I try to keep myself presentable, I do nothing extreme) and I think some people I’ve met who are are kind of…shallow. I also have some Barbie-looking friends who are awesome people, I just think they waste way too much time and money putting on a show for people who really don’t care.

    Having said that, if it makes them feel better about themselves to put on extensive makeup, get cosmetic surgery, or tattoo their makeup on, more power to them. I don’t think they are going against God’s commands or anything (still up in the air about the tattooing, as I’m not sure if it’s a “tattoo” or not). Just maybe choosing the “good” in the “good, better, best” scheme of things.

    One of my best friends has had a boob job. It was actually really funny when it happened because she lied to her friends (said she had the stomach flu) for a week while she recovered, then suddenly showed up at a church event with a tight t-shirt and sudden cleavage popping everywhere. Like we wouldn’t notice?? We laughed about it later, but she was so embarrassed to do it that she didn’t even tell her friends (and yet, she definitely “showed” us…as she was pretty proud of those puppies afterward). She said her reasons for having the surgery were so her clothes would fit better (huh….I’d say it was more like making them suddenly too small but whatever) and because her husband wanted her too. Whatever. Like I say, I don’t judge her spiritual worthiness (she was actually my 1st counselor in a presidency at the time) for it, I just think it was kind of a useless thing to do. But hey, it made her feel better and it’s her choice so I can support it I suppose. I’d just never do it myself.

    In a nutshell, I guess my feeling on it is people should do whatever they feel right about. I doubt God really cares in the eternal scheme of things whether you have perma-makeup, put lipstick on every morning, or go natural.

  • Angie March 17, 2011, 7:15 am

    Sorry, left out a word up there that makes the sentence not make sense. What I was saying is that I am still undecided on if tattooed MAKEUP is really a tattoo or something different entirely.

  • Alison Moore Smith March 17, 2011, 11:46 am

    I have to respond to Janeil’s comment because I am also a fair-skinned, blond eyebrows/eyelashes faceless-without-makeup kindred spirit. Not that I’d get the makeup tats, but I do feel her pain.

    Anyway, I wanted to note that I can’t give blood either (or couldn’t the last few times I tried) because I lived in England during some particular phase of the development of mad cow disease. Hah! (But, really, doesn’t the thought that I might be a mad cow carrier somehow make more sense of me???)
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  • Alison Moore Smith March 17, 2011, 11:56 am

    Hey, no Utah bashing here. Bash California if you want though. Open season. 😉
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  • Alison Moore Smith March 17, 2011, 11:57 am

    P.S. I wear makeup eery day, but I sincerely doubt you would find my regular makeup jarring. And — even when I did pageants — I’ve never worn eyeliner. Ever.
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  • Alison Moore Smith March 17, 2011, 11:58 am

    P.P.S. And my red hair is natural.
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  • Alison Moore Smith March 17, 2011, 11:59 am

    P.P.P.S. I don’t really have anything else to say. I just wanted to be annoying.
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  • Alison Moore Smith March 17, 2011, 12:01 pm

    Just pointing out that makeup tats are pictures. Pictures of lips. Pictures of eyes. Pictures of eyebrows. 🙂
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  • Alison Moore Smith March 17, 2011, 12:54 pm

    I think this discussion lends to lots of haystack arguments. “If reconstruction after a mastectomy is OK, then reconstruction after nursing is the same, and construction where no natural construction existed is the same, and enhancing natural DDs is the same…”

    On surgery (which isn’t really the topic here, but where this always seems to segue), there is no prophetic counsel. I figures it’s up to you to decide what is reasonable and sensible. Dr. Laura used to adamantly speak out against cosmetic surgery. Over the past couple of years, she seems to have softened that stance (with age???) and now says something along the lines of, “it’s OK to put things back where they belong.”

    That would seem to include not just mastectomies, but breasts fallen to the waist after nursing. (I haven’t actually seen that, but have two friends who SWEAR this happened to both of them.)

    I’m not saying her position is correct, but it seems reasonable. I haven’t really formulated a strong opinion on it myself.

    As for tats, I think it’s problematic to start trying to divine the “reasoning” behind the “no tats” rule, beyond what has been said, at least as far as extending our interpretation of that reasoning to mean that x and y and z are also proscribed and/or allowed. That’s what brings on the Word of Wisdom debates, etc.

    For me, I’m pretty much going to say that the prophet said no tats, so I’ll stick with no tats.
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  • MB March 17, 2011, 3:38 pm

    Gah. Holding still while someone pokes my eyelids and my highly sensitive lips with a sharp needle and effectively removes my ability to choose to go without makeup some mornings, leaving me with lines that will partially fade and will need to be “touched up” with more sharp needles every five or six years?

    Aagh! If you wish. But no thank you for me.

  • Darcee Yates March 17, 2011, 4:59 pm

    MB– I have to laugh, at your post. When I think about it in realtime- the whole needle thing close to my eye scares me. I’m not saying I couldn’t overcome that fear, if the need arose. I just haven’t been pushed to the wall- yet.

    Alison,- thanks for pulling rank on the Utah basher. BTW- did you major in Debate in college?

    And I’d like to thank everyone for showing up this week. I’ve enjoyed your company, and input. I will now pass around the lemon-aide and cheese cake. Enjoy!

  • Darcee Yates March 17, 2011, 8:02 pm

    Who is wonderdog? An admirer of yours Alison?
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  • Alison Moore Smith March 17, 2011, 11:11 pm

    (1) I have blue eyes.

    (2) I did not write this post.

    Conclusion: S/he must be talking to you , Darcee. A secret admirer??? 🙂
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  • Janiel Miller March 18, 2011, 12:37 am

    Well, you get to keep on feeling my pain, because I’m not getting the tats. It’s the 70 year-old hangy-eyebrow-thing, and the needle-in-the-eye-thing, and the sort-of-permanent-thing, and the needle-in-the-eye-thing. Did I mention needles? In eyes?

    Mad cow, huh? I’ve been called a mad cow before. Maybe that’s why they don’t take MY blood . . .
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  • Alison Moore Smith March 18, 2011, 11:41 am

    heh heh. Janiel, this is what I love about you.

  • Trish March 28, 2011, 11:31 pm

    What a surprise to find your posting, when I was thinking the same thing. I had gone with a friend to get her nails done and the lady doing them looked amazing–only her make-up was tatooed on! I’m also at the age where I can’t see to put my make-up on and I need the make-up more now than when I could do a perfect eyeliner. I was very tempted, and still think about doing it–but I know that I never will. First of all, is I like to look different for different occasions. Formal Evening requires much more make-up than when I’m making cookies with grandkids. (of course you can go with simple and add the extra’s for extra special occasions).
    Fifty years are so ago, make-up was controversial on it’s own in the church. So we can’t claim to go as God made us, because we already enhance and alter our appearance with make-up, hair dyes, waxings and artifical nails–it’s rare to find natural nails in my ward on anyone over 21 yrs of age.
    My husband, a respected, temple card carrying member of the Bishopric, has suggested botox and other enhancements to keep me as young looking on the outside as I feel on the inside and as he remembers me–so it is very tempting to say Cosmetics–tatooed or not should be okay. But somehow, it isn’t right for me. I love my greying hair–I don’t like the wrinkles so much but they don’t bother me as it once did.

    For me it isn’t the right choice. But none of us can decide what is right for you. I suspect in a few years, permanent make-up will be as accepted as our daily applications are now.

  • momma7 June 29, 2011, 9:45 am

    On “tattoo make-up”… see nothing wrong with it. I wear eye-liner, but I’m not a fake Utah or California Mormon, even though I was born in California. I wear it very modestly, and I think it looks good. I don’t know if I should be offended or not about that comment. =D I never wore eye-liner as a teenager because my mom wouldn’t allow me. I have only started wearing it the moment I got married. I know a few older sisters from church who have done it. They aren’t going to change much in styles. They will pretty much keep putting on their make-up the same way they have done the past 50 years, so just let them be.

    As for a boob-job. I have D’s. Maybe DDs but I chose to think that my boobs are only Ds and wear a bra that is a D, but I really probably should be wearing DDs. Many years of child-bearing and breastfeeding have made my once Bs to what they are now. My Mom did get a boob-job done, but only to make them look like she had a little something. She had nothing!! Only time she had something was when she was nursing babies. When I was 17, she finally went to a doctor about it. Turns out her chest caves in, so thus no boobs. She she got small boobs, and they don’t look fake at all. One sister of mine got hers done because of her husband (at the time) wanted bigger boobs on her, and my sister-in-law got hers done almost to big… but same thing like my Mom… only boobs when she nursed babies. But with her frame-size, they almost look way to big. I think I would have gotten a size smaller.

    But I am willing to share mine with anymore who needs extra!! LOL!!!!!

  • Jessica December 5, 2012, 10:56 pm

    I actually have been thinking a lot about this because one of my cousin-in-laws…if thats the correct term, I have no idea…is in cosmetology school and she is studying to do permanent eyeliner and offered it to family for free with a follow up appointment for the touch ups in a few weeks where we only had to pay the cost of supplies which is 50 dollars. I have a sister-in-law who has had it done and she loves it. It looks natural on her. I have a lot of my family signed up for it and so am I but I have just been asking myself if it is the right thing to do. I have always been somewhat “wild” I guess in lds standards by dying my hair all sorts of colors and going through “punk” phases as well when I was a teenager. Right now my hair is dark dark brown almost black with a blonde streak down the side. I love expressing myself this way! It makes me feel fun and shows off my spunky personality…(at least I like to think so). I am not trying to rationalize anything here but I once had a institute teacher bring up the point that we are to “treat our bodies as temples” and said that our temples have stained glass windows so why is tattooing any different on our bodies? She went on to say that she wouldn’t get a tattoo but still…it made me think. I’m not saying get a tattoo but I feel like this is cosmetics…we already put it on anyways…i never leave the house without it so its basically permanent right now. Plus, we are told to wear modest clothing. Does that mean I shouldn’t be wearing lingerie because I’m pretty sure that would fall under the “immodest” category. 🙂
    I have to say that I believe I have made up my mind. I am getting it done. I don’t see a difference now in what I already do ever morning….getting up and putting it on anyways. I want to look my best and I don’t think that only people who have eyeliner on are pretty…but I feel that if it can enhance a feature that I have so graciously been blessed with…why would I want to hide it?

    Just my opinion.

  • MB December 6, 2012, 8:08 am

    You are welcome to get it done.

    I think that before I proceeded with eyeliner tattoos I would want to have thought about the following.

    Black tattoos will fade, eventually looking more blue than black. Will you be interested in paying full price to have them redone?

    What is considered beautiful now in makeup will not be so in 20-30 years. Green eyeliner and pale lipstick were considered attractive 30 years ago. It’s not now where I live. Do you want to box yourself in to one particular era of makeup art?

    There are certain areas of your body where the skin will wrinkle or sag or shrink as you get older. Your face is one of them. That phenomenon includes your eyelids which may cause the tattoo line to appear to have shifted or spread down the road. You might want to consider what you will do if that happens.

    As I said, you are welcome to go ahead with your decision. I just think it would be good to also have a game plan on how you might deal with the above before you proceed.

  • John January 8, 2013, 9:11 am

    Permanent makeup is really popular nowadays. Many people from any gender and age are loving the idea of permanent makeup. With permanent makeup you won’t only save money but you’ll also save time as you won’t need to do your eyebrows or makeup everyday. Great article!


  • Carrie September 25, 2014, 5:15 pm

    As someone who does not have eyebrows due to a thyroid issue, I have been drawing mine on for 15 plus years. I finally decided to tattoo them on. I figure it’s making me look normal and in is no way drawing unnecessary attention to myself. Admittedly maybe its vain. But people without eyebrows look really weird and it’ll be nice to go swimming or to the gym without worrying whether my eyebrows have come off!

  • Alison Moore Smith September 25, 2014, 5:17 pm

    Carrie, my mom had no eyebrows and a thyroid issue, too. And she had black hair. Do you like the tats? Do they hold up well?
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  • kay November 12, 2015, 10:04 pm

    I have a disorder that causes all kinds of awful unattractive side effects. Such as, adult acne, facial hair growth, inability to lose weight, and the worst of all mail pattern baldness and eye brow loss. Sometimes it grows back and other times it does not.
    I’m not the kind of 30 year old who likes to wear make up. I work 2 jobs and am not going to sacrifice any more sleep then i already do, just to paint a perfect image on my face. However, when I wake up and there’s a big hole in my eye brow or part of my eye brow is gone, I feel the absolute need to fill it in. Through out the day, it wears off. Or I wipe it off by accident and the missing part of my eye brow is smudged across my hand. I’ve been thinking a lot about having the parts of my eye brows that havnt grown back in tattooed. I was born with eyebrows and just want what Heavenly Father gave me, back. I’m not trying to justify sin. I just don’t want to be walking around know that one day I won’t have them at all. Do I have to wait till tgat day to do something about it?

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